EP.25 - Fear, Growth, and Leadership Alignment with Andy Hite
In this episode of Retained Trust, host Karl Hughes speaks with Andy Hite, founder of Scaling Minds, about the often invisible role fear plays in entrepreneurship. Drawing on his coaching experience with high-performing founders and leadership teams, Andy breaks down how childhood conditioning shapes modern fear, how it blocks business growth, and how entrepreneurs can start addressing it. Karl and Andy explore the differences between coaching and consulting, practical ways to spot ego-driven fear, and the energy costs of staying in a fear loop. Andy also shares why a strong support network is critical and how pushing through discomfort can unlock lasting growth.
Key Points From This Episode:
[00:00:00] Andy shares how coaching helped a leadership team grow revenue by 40%.
[00:03:17] The distinction between consulting and coaching—and where mindset fits.
[00:05:10] How childhood experiences shape adult fear responses.
[00:07:43] Why modern fear is rooted in outdated survival instincts.
[00:09:58] Reframing fear of failure and understanding the emotional triggers.
[00:12:06] Common fears entrepreneurs face and their origins in uncertainty.
[00:15:06] Why avoiding uncertainty limits growth—and how to move through it.
[00:16:57] The role of ego in fear and why public perception hits hard.
[00:18:39] Fear of growth masked as a desire to “stay small.”
[00:21:34] How past work trauma can cause self-sabotage in leadership decisions.
[00:23:22] Why entrepreneurs at all levels struggle with fear, just differently.
[00:25:06] Learning to focus on long-term data rather than short-term noise.
[00:27:05] Infinite game thinking and why zooming out matters.
[00:28:13] Andy’s framework for addressing fear: naming it, facing it, and pushing past it.
[00:31:36] Mental skills as muscles—growth through repetition and discomfort.
[00:34:49] The energy drain of fear and how to reclaim creative bandwidth.
[00:35:10] The importance of a support network—and how Andy uses one himself.
[00:38:04] The power of peer comparison and Jim Rohn’s “five people” rule.
[00:40:09] What makes running a coaching business hard: market confusion and noise.
[00:42:21] The difference between a tactical coach and a mindset coach.
[00:44:30] Why tactics are everywhere—but mindset is the true limiter.
[00:45:07] Book recommendation: The Happiest Man on Earth by Eddie Jaku.
[00:48:23] Final thoughts on fear as the biggest creative blocker.
[00:48:33] Where to find Andy online and learn more about Scaling Minds.
Links:
- Andy Hite on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-hite/
- Scaling Minds: https://www.scalingminds.com/
- Karl Hughes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karllhughes
- Production and editing by The Podcast Consultant: https://thepodcastconsultant.com
